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Below is a transcript of an original conversation at Plurk.

yojibee

wishes now if only the API would come soon!
posted on June 05, 2008 at 11:24AM

shaf

They have to scale their services first.... IM is down + xml is down which is starting to worry me.

yojibee

I was actually happy that IM is down..maybe I can get some work done now

yojibee

but I do hope they have learned just a little bit about scaling from Twitter

oliverkohl

Which notifications did you get over IM yojibee? Also new plurks?

yojibee

oliverkohl everything..new plurks and comments on older plurks

oliverkohl

I only got comments on old plurks

shaf

thinks that the IM service is the yardstick to measure how solid a service is. IM is complicated technically to offer.

yojibee

thinks they weren't really prepared for Leo Laporte/his words and it's aftermath yet

shaf

hopes we are not talking about twitter ! A distant fragmented memory for me.

yojibee

I am still hoping Twitter will be back

shaf

in a way so am I but if it can thread conversations out of tweets I would be right back there. Subject to a solid SLA

yojibee

depends where everyone moves as well I guess

jphaynes1966

says Twitter still seems to have more potential (with an API) than plurk. Threaded discussions would be very helpful

yojibee

a mix of these two would have been perfect! (and a dash of FriendFeed too)

jphaynes1966

likes that idea. A plurk like top down view of threaded discussions might be cool. Not sure if that should be time based.

yojibeethinks

where the conversation should jump to the top..easier to follow where the conversation happens then

yojibee

so sorry about my language there..second try..

yojibee

thinks plurks/tweets where conversation happens, should be on top. It makes it easier to follow the conversation as it happens

jphaynes1966

thinks Yes. The most active conversations within a group would rise to the top. Maybe Karma should apply to the conversations instead of users.

yojibee

thinks conversation is already a part of how Karma is applied

dhague

Are we starting to design the next-gen service here? Perhaps ccmehil could sort out venture capital and we could run on NetWeaver...

yojibee

do you know any developers with time on their hands? oliver also has many good ideas

dhague

I'm already investigating Skittr for NetWeaver - it pushes messages straight to the browser, so very responsive & bandwidth-efficient.

dhague

oliver Do let me know. Wouldn't it be funny if we used Plurk to design its successor? A bit like Deep Thought in H2G2.

yojibee

it would be so much fun! And no one would expect it from a bunch of SAP guys (and girl)

oliverkohl

Ideas are not a problem For now I have to struggle with different names on all the platforms. oliver only exists on Twitter

jphaynes1966

thinks MDM for social networking? There's an opportunity in the making

oliverkohl

thinks building on top of a (stable) established platform makes sense and Twitter is mostly perfect for this (if it is available at all).

yojibee

thinks we should go for it!

sig

Bugger me, SAP creativity in action, me likes

shaf

shudders to think how much the consultancy costs are going to be - let alone implementing a solution !

oliverkohl

shaf think about all the 30 seconds to wait for a deployment...that sums up

oliverkohl

What about building a social network platform on top of EP using UME as social graph + integrating backend notifications from R/3?

dhague

oliverkohl did you read the article about Twitter scalability issues? www.hueniverse.com/hueniverse/2008/...

dhague

I'm thinking that we would need to use JMS for reliable messaging

dhague

Riffing on Henning's Sapphire theme, use TREX/column-oriented access for all reads.

yojibee

asks where is ccmehil? He should be in on this as well..

ccmehil

says I'm here just kind of watching it's been a rough day and I got a train to catch in the morning for Bonn

yojibee

says There's a lot going on in Lippstadt at the moment..I hope you find some time to rest in between..

shaf

is reading dhague link but before I read it JMS is too heavy

shaf

wants a cig first - yes I'm bad sorry... brb

dhague

Maybe we should take this to Plexus?

ccmehil

says rest? what's that oh wait I think I have a bed around here somewhere I remember it kind of LOL

yojibee

says ccmehil sleep tight (when you find your bed)

shaf

says dhague thanks for the link which I didn't find spicy enough however the responses were great ! I finally ended up here...

shaf

shares www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/twitt...

shaf

lovesthe comments

oliverkohl

dhague Haven't read it yet. With Twitters issues there should be a lot of material out there about horizontal scaling of such a service.

oliverkohl

But in respect to our usual customers I would go for a intranet solution with connection to the outside of course.

oliverkohl

A product based on EP to enable social capabilities inside a company. How about that?

dhague

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Being SAP, we should be working on Enterprise Twitter/Plurk. Good focus & business case.

dhague

Heh - "being SAP, we" - boy have I drunk that SAP Kool Aid.

yojibee

says dhague

yojibee

says and better UI! This one is slowly getting on my nerves

yojibee

says and it can not be used in any business setting what so ever

oliverkohl

dhague I think we have to talk. Damn, you were in Munich with sig and Sterling? How could I missed you?

yojibee

says it is about time that an enterprise tool a like this gets built